That makes Missy's redemption arc much better while still being able to keep bringing the master back. Instant injection of depth in the companions (although Graham is the one who needs it the least). Better costumes and prosthetics, more individual variation, and there were actual characters among them instead of generic space cops. When the Master discovered he was also cloned, he torched the place. Time and birthdays. After all, he didn’t die in the Vault of Secrets. … The 2nd Doctor regenerates into Ruth, … He would have to been memory wiped before meeting Grace. Both possibilities are happening at once, Schrodinger-style, and that's why things are batshit all of a sudden. Some random thoughts as I’m still not sure what to make of this one. Nothing is properly retconned but all sorts of craziness can happen without damaging canon. It felt like the Barrowman scenes were done on totally different schedule on a closed set to avoid leaks. "Fugitive of the Judoon" is the fifth episode of the twelfth series of the British science fiction television programme Doctor Who, first broadcast on BBC One on the 26th of January 2020. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Also it'd make sense if Missy was the Masters clone. New theory: the Web of Time is unraveling as a result of the Master's total razing of Gallifrey. Surprise! Not a complaint (and certainly not from a long time fan! This might be a bit of a stretch but is there a possibility that Androvax (from SJA) could make an appearance? She did get redeemed and she did die. Both possibilities are happening at once, Schrodinger-style, and that's why things are batshit all of a sudden. I think I'd actually enjoy that. 409k. Click to see spoiler. 1.5k comments. And who else will be returning?”. ", I'm so onboard for that if it happens. I really like this theory. Press J to jump to the feed. After she is done with them, they wipe her mind of all memory of her time with the CIA. I mean one theory is the whole Season 6B thing in which it's theorized that there' could be another incarnation of the Doctor between Troughton and Pertwee. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It’s odd really - those scenes were so disconnected from everything else happening, and did feel like an odd tease/hook in an episode that went on to hatch an even zanier scheme, but if it leads to a bigger return for Jack (and er, it seems like it will), then fair play I guess. Found on an unknown planet, they were taken back to Gallifrey, where their abilities allowed Gallifreyans to become Time Lords. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. Plenty of wiggle room for a few more incarnations of him/her , I assume it's becuase Gloustershire is way too big to H2O Scoop. BUT, Hartnell was the Doctor that stole the TARDIS and ran away, and then the TARDIS got stuck as a police box. If we see a cloning thing and get 8th Doctors/Paul McGann back that'd be siiiiiiick, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. It could be the writing, it could be the direction, it could be the fact that none of the companions played a role in it (and it saddens me to say that I think that played a part), and maybe it’s just that we’re looking at some pretty off the wall plot twists and mythos busting. Excellent. That would, of course, mean the First Doctor somehow started off a new set of 12 regenerations, but that's another issue. save hide report. spoiler. We saw that in The Day of the Doctor. We find out he has been memory wiped/is actually an alien/his future self is wanted so they are hunting for his past self or something wacky like that. Interesting idea but doesn't really fit with 11's whole "13 regenerations, this is the last one" thing. A new Doctor is in. I did think this was a big new-showrunner-writing-an-old-showrunner’s-character moment...and then remembered that Chibnall was head writer on Torchwood for a time. Why are they here? Next time we see him he plops out of the TARDIS as Jon Pertwee. ), just a passing thought. And that didn’t get a resolution yet, what if this episode revolves around that? Reddit's Doctor Who Fan Community - News, Discussion, Artwork and Fan Creations! The revelation that Jo Martin’s sweet Gloucester tour guide “… Trivia The Judoon leader is named "Pol-Kon-Don". Also Time Lord confirmed? Ruth is a cloned doctor who was created to fight in the war. Or this episode will focus on police brutality, the Judoon never struck me as actually following their own rules. Remains Of The Day. That sounds much better than what it probably will be. New theory: the Web of Time is unraveling as a result of the Master's total razing of Gallifrey. As a child, they were unkillable and could regenerate endlessly. The 2nd Doctor regenerates into Ruth, who is forced to do work for the CIA by The Time Lords. Why haven't they used an H2O scoop to move the establishment that the fugitive is in of the earth? A community dedicated to discussions and news for Doctor Who. It lulls you into a sense of security, that this is a typical episode of Doctor Who, only to drop on you several earth-shattering twists. The Master is not only cloned, O is the clone. It worked for me and I was into the last 15 minutes in a way that I haven’t been for a while with Doctor Who. Imagine the return of Captain Jack to the show after ten years being, like, the third most interesting thing to happen in a mid-season episode. They were wanted for high jacking that plane in Spyfall, remember? I’m hoping that Clyde is somehow involved as he’s not allowed off of Earth because of the Judoon. Whovians. Doctor Who Fugitive of the Judoon review: Chris Chibnall majestically blows a hole in the Time Lord’s mythology and I’m loving it. My absolutely and insanely far flung hope is that we get a multi-Doctor story with McGann. •The Doctor and various companions hop between universes several times •Jackie Tyler learns that a version of her husband is alive, and later establishes a new life with him in another universe, becoming incredibly wealthy in the process •The Doctor devises a plan to pull Earth’s alien assailants into the void, and successfully executes it It seems a lot of people disagree with you. I’ve heard a lot of theories that Captain Jack could be back (John Barrowman retweeted a tweet about Fugitive of the Judoon.) Yeah that makes sense--this is a different version of the doctor, some previous doctor regenerated into her instead of the one we know. Or rather, time-shattering. Glochester is between London and Cardiff, perfect for when Ianto took the Cybercoverter from Torchwood 1 to 3. I feel like if you’ve started with 11 (though I doubt many people did) you’d have watched the old stuff by now or at least you would after seeing this episode. ... Reddit's Doctor Who Fan Community - News, Discussion, Artwork and Fan Creations! My possible-but-not-probable hope is that River Song is back. But Ruth's TARDIS was also a police box, which suggests she's post-Hartnell. It would be a good way to have something new and interesting without overturning all the history so far. 463. Gotta be parallel universe. My crackpot theory is that this is going to be related to the Torchwood episode 'Cyberwoman' (which was written by Chibbs). The metacrisis Doctor didn't use up a regeneration like The Doctor thought. Clocks tick, the day begins, the cycle returns. Press J to jump to the feed. Off the wall theory,based on a BBC Facebook post. Instant injection of depth in the companions (although Graham is … Today the BBC America twitter account tweeted, deleted, and reposted an edited tweet that seemed to give a bit of a tease that they didn’t want to give away. We saw that in The Day of the Doctor. What if the Judoon are after the Tardis gang? There has been too much deep lore for it to be a newer concept as well, "New theory: the Web of Time is unraveling as a result of the Master's total razing of Gallifrey. We find out he has been memory wiped/is actually an alien/his future self is wanted so they are hunting for his past self or something wacky like that. Basically, I hope Chibnall steps *very* carefully with the canon. I predict the ratings will drop below an overnight audience of 4 million. It's wacky, but not in a bad way. Interesting seems like the big thing isn't the rumour but a character's return. The 2nd Doctor (who we never saw regenerate into the third) is captured by the Time Lords. I’m not gonna get my hopes up tho. oh yea chibnal wrote the 2nd season of torchwood. It certainly … Also I made it a point not to watch any episode of the Chibnall era, so it is a shock for me to hear that their is no more Unit, the Master is back as someone other than Missy or the Jon Simm Master and that Gallifrey is destroyed. I'm still trying to figure out where Ruth's Doctor fits... my immediate though was pre-Hartnell. The character "Ruth" is (apparently) an earlier life of the Doctor. Well that was bonkers. And tbh I think the Judoon were far better utilized here than in Smith and Jones. That would be amazing. Doctor Who 12x05 "Fugitive of the Judoon" Live and Immediate Reactions Discussion Thread. So where does she fit in? Then , she returned to Gallifrey, Timeless Child stuff hit the fan, and then she forgot and started off the run of Doctors we know, from Hartnell. But I think he is a swanky looking rhinolien. It was written by Vinay Patel and current showrunner Chris Chibnall, and directed by Nida Manzoor. It was heavily implied Missy is the last incarnation of the Master but not whether Missy comes after the Saxon Master. BUT (again) we've seen all the regenerations. — and it turns out, for good reason. Edit- legend, sorry wee bit drunk but what a lad, Tehnically it works on wood since the episode when david and matt and the john met soo. I don't know if you're taking the piss about the Web of Time theory, but I kinda like it. I’d probably have some big questions about what a chameleon arch is if I were new - Human Nature/The Family of Blood are right there on Netflix if I were so inclined but it feels like a big shift in approach. Or maybe an old one? Earth still is a level 5 planet. I really hope that this season is as good as that one. Safest bet is that this is a two-parter with the villain revealed to be the Cybermen. I mean the good word of the last episode and seeing a returning monster means Im doubtful, New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. So there is room somewhere for another doctor that somehow they had their mind wiped about? So I wonder what it is. There was a leak a few months ago about where Ruth fits into the Doctor's timeline, and where it all fits into the Timelss child: The Timeless Child is the Doctor themselves, and is their "first life" per se. Apart from the War Doctor to (we assume) 9. I did see a rumour that Yaz ends up as one - but that would be absolutely stupid as that's how the last companion (Bill) died, so I dismissed it as a crazy fan theory. Shocked but not surprised because we are dealing with Chibnall, Of course the Master is back as someone other than John Simm or Michelle Gomez. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I assume they are using the same but need as more variants to discern individuals, Judoons will have different facial features/haircuts, similar to Sontarons being slightly different in look, even with being a clone race. “This Sunday, Gloucester is under siege from the Judoon, but what do they want? Chibnall just dropped 6B on us and confused the numbering all in one episode. Definitely my favourite so far. That would, of course, mean the First Doctor somehow started off a new set of 12 regenerations, but that's another issue. The Judoon are hunting something, there was a single Cyberman shown in the trailer but notice on less bulky it's design it especially around the shoulders and torso.

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